5.4 Fourth Day – Evident Unfairness


To Bloggers – I want to inform you before hand that the following reply from amen.hallelu_jah was reconstructed entirely from my memory. For reasons best known to Allah, my Message Archives keep getting deleted though i have proper saving settings. Anyway nothing to worry, i always keep back ups. Unfortunately the following reply from him got deleted. I also asked him to give it to me from his Archives. But he refused. You’ll find out all this at the end of the conversation.

amen.hallelu_jah: all scripture is inspired by God. but u dont believe. u expext sentences from jesus? what logic is there?
mansoor muhammad: if the gospels is about the so called ‘son of god’ then why shud’nt i expect sentences spoken from him? unless of course bible is like JK rowlings harry potter where we find sentences from the mouth of Ron and hermione and harry and not from the mouth of JK Rowling herself. Talk about logic! u see, that is the difference between ur bible and the quran. in quran everything is from the mouth of God. unlike the gospel which has human narrators, in quran it is God who is the narrator. he even narrates those sentences that prophets spoke in his own style. oh and what do i see here? all scripture is inspired by God? you are tempting me to dwell in the adult topics like prophets and incest and other indecencies like forcible sex etc etc present in the bible and dont forget about the 200 odd list of contradictions that are on the tip of my tongue (sorry fingers)we cud discuss them whole night if u want. but let me cut short. The ENTIRE bible is NOT THE WORD OF GOD. few parts may have been from God. i agree. but not the entire book.every body knows that the bible is an evolving book with frequent alterations. so brother accept gracefully this fact.

amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:01:28 AM): so point is you do not believe bible is inspired word of God and you reject gospel of Jesus Christ
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:01:36 AM): so what there is to discuss ?
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:02:24 AM): there is so much . ill let u know. unlike u i read every word u type . so be patient
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:02:53 AM): i try to understand what u type too and not just blindly enter text in the box
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:03:07 AM): do you somehow think that if you cause me to lose my faith, I would become muslim ???
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:03:18 AM): patience
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:03:25 AM): ill let u know
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:03:46 AM): ur disturbing my train of thoughts.
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:03:53 AM): so wait
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:04:22 AM): well, if you I would be atheist, I would call you slow and that there is not much to disturb
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:04:42 AM): but as I am not, I will wait…
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:07:13 AM): but really, are you still reading ?
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:07:44 AM): finished reading. now iam understanding
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:07:50 AM): good…
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:07:56 AM): thanks
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:09:17 AM): so if you want me to become muslim, you are going very wrong way, attacking my faith as Christian, ever makes me a muslim
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:09:53 AM): but maybe you just like attack my faith, and do not even want me being muslim
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:10:27 AM): but what islamic “allah” thinks if you make me atheist ?
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:12:26 AM): seems that you are busy, so if you want to discuss, then may I ask that you do it when you have no other things

To Blog Veiwers – Dear Christian missionaries, please read the following response very carefull. iam reflecting the general feelings of christians towards muslims here

mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:20:40 AM): i want u to know that i have finished making a blog. so talk sense and read what i type properly . the world wud be quick in knowing how unfair u are. u know the difference between me and u? a minor difference? well i wud read even if u type a boring poem from wordsworth if u do it to prove a point to me. other differences include your hatred towards muhammad (peace) though i have none to my beloved teacher jesus (peace). u guys probably are taught in the church to hate him more than Osama bin laden. no problem. and oh yes my motive is to try to change ur mind. dont tell me that ur motive was to give away free santa gifts to children when i found u in islam chat.

mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:20:43 AM): and what were u telling about u losing faith and wud prefer being an atheist and not a muslim? congrats u proved a quranic teaaching to me:- “As to those who reject Faith it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)” Quran 2:6-7

mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:20:50 AM): cool then. thats fine with me. and yes u guessed it right. and yes i like attacking your faith. now now did u have noble intentions like strenghtening a muslims faith in islam when u entered islam chat? i dont think so. see? unlike u iam so fair and truthful. and now i will ask courteously for your permission to discusss a few ‘holy’ acts that some of the biblical characters do. or shall we move on to the contradictions? dont worry ill paste all these in the blog WITHOUT any alterations.

mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:21:07 AM): time is 12:21
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:21:15 AM): pm
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:22:06 AM): hearing what ?
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:22:11 AM): now time is 12:22
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:22:15 AM): you have just attacked bible
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:22:23 AM): i caught u , u didnt read
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:22:30 AM): cheers
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:22:31 AM): you have not even tried to make me a muslim
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:22:51 AM):
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:22:55 AM): i caught u
mansoor muhammed (9/28/2008 12:23:05 AM): not reading cheers to me
To Blog Viewers – Christian and Muslims alike please notice the time that elapsed since my last of the lengthy posts and the first of his replies. i have highlighted them in deep puple for u. the time was auto generated by Yahoo messenger. so it is more accurate than my manual timing of amen.hallelu_jah. So lets do some maths now. 12:22:06 minus 12:21:15 = 51 seconds.
lets subract say 5 more seconds which involves the time taken for him to type “hearing what ?”. ie actual time that he took to read was 51 – 5 = 46 seconds! And then we are not exchanging bed time stories here. I believe this is a highly intellectual talk at least from my side! So now do you people from both sides see how unfair he is in his approach. He knew i caught him not reading and since we both knew that these talks wud be publicized, it was a different matter now. So now he changes his stiff necked stand a little. Me being obsessed with fairness and justice, i too loosen my stand a bit.

amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:23:15 AM): man, you are very slow…
amen.hallelu_jah (9/28/2008 12:23:40 AM): but I give you think, I will listen all you want to say, if you truly want make me a muslim


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